You Can Teach Yourself Mandarin Chinese Conversation using Pimsleur, Serge and ChinesePod!

Or rather, that I couldn't really learn to speak a language. It wasn't that I hadn't tried. In fact, I'd studied German and Spanish and could read in both languages but couldn't ever speak to someone when I got the chance. Everyone says that you need an immersion experience in order to really become fluent, but that didn’t work for me. When we moved toTexas, we joined a Spanish church. Although most of the younger people did speak English, the sermons were in Spanish and many of the older people only spoke Spanish. My husband enthusiastically talked with everyone and enjoyed practicing his language skills, but in spite of having studied Spanish in college, I found I could not ever remember what I’d learned beyond the occasional “Hola” and “Adios!” Embarrassingly, in the three years we belonged to the church, I never once had a conversation with anyone in Spanish! Sometimes, I'd try to practice starting a conversation on my own at home, but when it came to talking to someone in person, I'd always get embarrassed and start speaking English instead. Afterwards, I’d feel so frustrated that I never could remember what to say when I wanted to speak.

We should learn Mandarin?!

You can imagine what I thought when my husband said we should start learning Mandarin! Hadn't I learned my lesson? However, we do have two daughters adopted from China and we really did want them to learn some Chinese. Moreover, we had plans for taking not only our family but also some of the college students we work with to China on an extended trip, maybe more than once. Surely that was enough of a motivation? I wasn't so sure.

Learning by Listening-Pimsleur Mandarin Chinese

My husband did some searching on the internet and talking to other professors he knew who had learned Mandarin. One of them (who was fluent in several languages) told us that after he had studied Chinese through taking some college courses, he went over on business to Beijing and found no one could understand him. Of course, this story did not drive up my confidence. However, this professor told us that the problem was that he had learned visually and not by listening, so he had never really mastered the tones. He started learning over again using the Pimsleur method of learning by listening and repeating what he heard and found that it worked. Soon he returned to China and this time they understood him.

So we decided to try the Pimsleur method. Although the tapes can be expensive, my husband found that you can order them used and then re-sell them afterwards, so the cost is under $50 for the first thirty lessons. My husband plunged through Pimsleur Mandarin 1 and 2 and then started on course 3. Skeptical, it took me a while to be even willing to try the first 30 minute lesson. When I did start listening to the Pimsleur tapes, I was initially frustrated because I couldn’t “hear” the sounds of the words and repeat them correctly. Then I worried that I wasn’t going through the tapes quickly like my husband. However, I just decided to not worry about how fast I was learning and just take as long as I needed to remember the lessons. It was reassuring to know that the tapes said I only had to know about 80% of the lesson in order to move on because the vocabularly would be repeated later. At first, I'd have to listen over and over to the same phrases and try to recreate those sounds. However, the listening paid off and I began to be able to "hear" the sounds more easily and then began to be able to pronounce them. Although I learned about the four tones, I did not worry about memorizing the them. I just tried to pronounce the word the way it sounded to me.

ChinesePod, Mandarin Chinese Lessons with Serge Melnyk and other Podcasts

Since my husband had finished most of the Pimsleur lessons, he began looking around for other Chinese language learning materials. We read up on Rossetta Stone and decided that we were not convinced that it was worth the price. Instead, we downloaded the free ITune podcasts from ChinesePod, and Mandarin Chinese Lessons with Serge Melnyk. We also tried some of the other Chinese lesson podcasts but most of those didn't have many lessons or were not well done. For variety, we started listening to these podcasts along with Pimsleur.

The Key: Time, Repetition and Variety

We took a trip to China after I'd only done about 15 lessons on Pimsleur Mandarin 1 and maybe another 20 lessons of ChinesePod. At the time, I doubted these lessons were going to do me much good since I wasn't sure I really remembered much from them. Not only was I sobered by my Spanish experience, I started realizing that I hadn't exactly been the most enthusiastic or dedicated learner of Mandarin. Most of the time, I was just listening to the Pimsleur lessons while exercising at the YMCA, where there were so many distractions that I would find my mind drifting away a lot of the time.

So I was rather astonished when I found that I was actually able to remember a lot of phrases and words to use on our trip. In fact, I found that I was sometimes able to communicate better than my husband who had studied far more lessons than me! What a difference from my experience in Spanish! Listening and learning at my own pace had worked for me in a way that classwork never had. Even though I’d only gone half-way through the first set of lessons, I had allowed myself enough time and repetition to actually remember the words I’d learned.

Since returning from that trip a year ago, I've become enthusiastic and excited about learning Mandarin. The key for me has been to give myself: time, repetition and variety. Time means I do spend some time almost every day listening to a podcast, CD or doing Powerspeak online. Repetition means that I don't pressure myself to "memorize" lists of words but just allow myself to hear and say the words over and over until suddenly I realize I "know" them and no longer have to think about what that word means. Variety means that I don't stick to just one learning program. In looking through several blogs of people learning Mandarin, I found that many people used several Mandarin learning programs, not just one. As my review of Chinese Pod, Mandarin Chinese Learning Podcast ,and Powerspeak suggests, most of these programs have both strengths and drawbacks. Any one of them can be tedious to listen to over and over. Using a variety of materials instead of just one works the best for me. Instead of just turning off Pimsleur when I get tired of its question and answer format, I can switch to listening to the banter of Ken and Jenny at ChinesePod and hear a more in-depth discussion of the same words, or I can practice my pinyin and expand my vocabulary using Powerspeak.

Can you teach yourself Mandarin? Yes!

In fact, our experience is that we have learned more from studying Mandarin on our own than we ever did in taking language classes in college. Really remembering a language requires a lot of repetition. In a class, you are always needing to move on to the next list of vocabulary, whether you really learned the words or not. When you study on your own you can work at your own pace and make learning the goal, not just passing a test. In a class, you are generally relying on hearing just the teacher speak the words correctly, and you only hear the teacher in class. When you use audio study methods, you spend most of your time listening to native speakers talking, so you have much more of an immersion experience. Many tapes use several different speakers also, so you can hear different accents. However, studying on your own does takes effort and can get boring. I've found that it really helps to use a variety materials to keep myself motivated.

Oh, and the greatest irony? Now that I'm studying Mandarin through listening, I'm also finding that I can recall and speak in Spanish much more easily. In fact, while we were in China, my husband and I ended up having a fifteen minute conversation with one another all in Spanish while we were waiting for the subway. Even better was the time when I was stopped by a Spanish couple and their Chinese interpreter. They asked me a couple of questions and I was able to answer them. When then complimented me on my Spanish, I could hardly believe the irony of finally having a conversation in Spanish thousands of miles away from the nearest Spanish speaking country! Now I'm realizing that if I really do want to speak any of the other languages I've studied, I can do it by studying on my own. If I can do it, you can too!

Note: Thanks to Hui for alerting me to the CNTN programs! I've checked it out and they have many videos and great instructions. There are several different programs to look at that are all online videos. They also offer PDF transcrips in pinyin, characters and English. There is even a series of videos for teens. These are on YouTube but also offered on the CNTN website. Look for Learning Chinese. They have "Travel Chinese," "Growing up in Chinese" and "Happy Chinese" along with other shows.